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People and profitability webinar

Looking Beyond Payroll Cost to Business Value

Discover a practical way to assess how each role helps a business sell, save or free up capacity—so decisions about recruitment, performance and restructuring are based on value, not salary alone.

Recorded 18 September 2026 57 minutes Presented by Richard Tunnycliffe For accountants, advisors and business leaders
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Measure the contribution, not just the cost

Richard Tunnycliffe, founder of The HR Doctor, explains how businesses and their advisors can evaluate the commercial contribution of different roles before making decisions about hiring, development, redeployment or cost reduction.

How can a business measure the value of an employee's role?

Begin by identifying whether the role helps the business sell, save or free up capacity. Then compare the value contributed with the full employment cost—including salary, employer costs, equipment and training. This wider view helps reveal roles that generate margin, protect profit or release higher-value people to concentrate on more productive work.

Key takeaways

What you will learn

Second lens

Look beyond payroll

Understand why salary cost alone does not show the contribution, knowledge or profit protection attached to a role.

Value framework

Classify every role

Use the sell, save and free up framework to describe how different people contribute to business performance.

Margin

Measure what matters

Assess sales roles by the margin they produce and recognise that savings can have a much larger revenue equivalent.

Better decisions

Protect business value

Use evidence to guide recruitment, performance support, redeployment and any necessary restructuring decisions.

The people appraisal process

A second lens for assessing every role

The approach adds commercial value to the payroll figure. It gives business leaders and advisors a more complete basis for deciding where to invest, improve, redeploy or reduce.

Calculate the full employment cost

Include salary, employer National Insurance, pension contributions, equipment, training and other role-related costs.

Identify how the role contributes

Decide whether its primary contribution is generating profitable sales, protecting margins through savings, or freeing others to complete higher-value work.

Quantify the value created

Use evidence such as margin generated, costs avoided, productivity released or measurable improvements against previous results.

Choose the appropriate action

Protect and systemise strong roles, improve performance where more value is possible, or consider redeployment before losing capable people.

Sell, save or free up

Three ways a role can create business value

ContributionWhat it meansExamplesUseful measures
SellGenerates profitable revenue for the business.Sales, business development and account growth roles.Gross or net margin generated, conversion, retention and profitable customer growth.
SaveProtects profit by reducing costs, avoiding waste or managing risk.Procurement, quality, operations and warehouse roles.Costs avoided, purchasing savings, reduced errors and margin protected.
Free upReleases senior or specialist capacity for higher-value activity.Administration, coordination and support roles.Hours released, additional selling time, throughput and higher-value work completed.
Webinar chapters

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00:00

Why payroll cost is only part of the picture

The risk of making rapid cost reductions without understanding what each role contributes.

03:45

Introducing the people and profits approach

Why strong people decisions depend on preparation, commercial evidence and a clear view of return.

08:45

The sell, save and free up framework

Three ways to identify how roles generate revenue, protect margin or release valuable capacity.

13:45

Calculating role-based return on investment

A procurement example showing why savings can be commercially equivalent to a much larger amount of sales.

20:30

The wider cost of the wrong decision

Lost knowledge, reduced capacity, replacement costs, employee engagement and governance exposure.

25:10

Employment law and governance considerations

Why changing employment rules increase the importance of preparation, documentation and appropriate professional advice.

33:00

Reducing cost without undermining performance

Using value evidence to protect strong roles and avoid shifting lower-value work onto expensive people.

35:54

Performance management that creates value

Clear quarterly outcomes, regular alignment conversations and documented expectations.

39:59

Measuring margin and preparing the board conversation

How a sharper focus on margin can improve profit without increasing headcount.

44:01

Questions and discussion

Recruitment, team dynamics, independent HR support and the value of frequent employee conversations.

Who should watch?

For advisors and leaders making people decisions

The session is particularly relevant when payroll costs are rising, a business is changing structure or leaders want clearer evidence for recruitment and performance decisions.

  • Accountants and business advisors who want to broaden conversations beyond the payroll figure.
  • Owner-managers and managing directors reviewing costs, capacity or organisational structure.
  • Fractional FDs and CFOs helping clients connect people decisions with profitability and cash.
  • Finance and operations leaders assessing recruitment requests or the return from existing roles.
  • HR and people professionals seeking a commercially grounded framework for performance discussions.
Webinar resource

Download The Second Lens people appraisal slides

Use the presentation alongside the recording to revisit the sell, save and free up framework, worked examples and practical questions for business leaders.

Frequently asked questions

People appraisal and business value questions

What does it mean to look beyond payroll cost?

It means assessing both the full cost of a role and the value it contributes. That value may come from profitable sales, savings and margin protection, or releasing other people to concentrate on higher-value work.

What are sell, save and free up roles?

Sell roles generate profitable revenue. Save roles reduce costs, avoid waste or protect margin. Free up roles release time and capacity so senior, sales or specialist colleagues can focus on work with a higher return.

Why should salespeople be measured on margin rather than turnover alone?

Revenue does not show how much value remains after discounts and the costs of delivery. Measuring margin gives a clearer view of the profit produced by the work won.

Can the framework be used when considering cost reductions?

Yes. It can help leaders understand what may be lost as well as what will be saved. It does not replace a fair selection process, employment-law advice or proper consultation where these are required.

How often should role performance be reviewed?

The webinar recommends clear quarterly outcomes supported by frequent alignment conversations. Regular reviews make it easier to recognise progress, identify blockers and make adjustments before an annual appraisal.

Does a financial appraisal replace HR or legal advice?

No. It provides commercial evidence for decision-making, but employment decisions still need to follow the appropriate process and reflect current legal requirements and professional advice.

Add a second lens to the payroll conversation

Watch the recording and download the slides to help clients and leadership teams connect employment cost with the value each role creates, protects or enables.

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